authentic & consistent mesh pad (or cymbal pad) CENTER-to-EDGE velocity translation : compensate for the loss of velocity from the center to the edge 😊

Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:48 pm (Last edited: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:51 pm)
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authentic & consistent mesh pad (or cymbal pad) CENTER-to-EDGE velocity translation : compensate for the loss of velocity from the center to the edge 😊👉


What would be the perfect mesh pad (or perfect cymbal pad) regarding velocity translation?
Well, that would be one without any loss of velocity from the center to the edge.
When striking the 'Off Center' or 'Edge' zone on an acoustic snare with full velocity, it will be the sound from this full velocity.

Unfortunately this will not translate consistently and authentically with most mesh pads (and also with many cymbal pads) along with their module-side trigger processing, as they suffer from a loss of velocity from the center to the edge. Even the Roland digital snare (which is the best pad available to date) has this drawback.

So I've created an engine that will compensate for the loss of velocity from the center to the edge❗️ It is available for all Positional Sensing-capable mesh pads and cymbal pads
(like Roland PD-140DS or PD-120/125/128, Drum-Tec Pro(3) or Diabolo(3) ; Roland CY-15R/14ct/16ct or Yamaha PCY-155/175)
connected to Positional Sensing-capable modules/trigger devices (like Roland TD-50(X) / -27 or an eDRUMin)


ENJOY❗️😊


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Video timestamps:


The ' Takes [1 - 6] ' are identical for all ' Tests (A ; B ; C)' ( --> refer to the 'Take' numbers)

∙ Test A ( 00:23 - 06;37 ) :
shows the loss of velocity of the pad from the center to the edge with an SD3 test sound (default kit Slingerland Snare --- SD3 "Voice and Layer" setting: Hard 0 ; Gradient 1 ; Soft 0)

∙ Test B ( 06:38 - 12;53 ) :
Smooth Transition Positional Sensing ; SD3 default kit sound (Ludwig Black Beauty 20s Snare) (default SD3 velocity layer settings)

∙ Test B# ( 12:54 - 13;40 ) :
short Positional Sensing comparison : Smooth Transition Positional Sensing vs. default state

∙ Test C ( 13:41 - 19;55 ) :
Smooth Transition Positional Sensing ; (EZ Drummer 3 - "Bright Room" , 'Classic' preset + Masshoff "Big Chief" Snare)



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Cymbal Pad :





'Take' timestamps:


The 'Takes [1 - 3]' show the loss of velocity of the cymbal pad from the center to the edge with an SD 3 test sound :

(default Core Library kit Ride) - SD3 "Voice and Layer" setting: Hard 0 ; Gradient 1 ; Soft 0)
SD3 "Hit Variation" setting: (see pic in the video: 00:16 )


∙ Take 1 : ( 00:23 - 02;05 )

∙ Take 2 : ( 02:06 - 02;54 )

∙ Take 3 : ( 02:55 - 04;22 )

∙ Take 3 (first half) : ( 04:24 - 05;10 )

∙ Take 3 (second half) : ( 05:11 - 05;56 )


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Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:56 am (Last edited: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:23 pm)
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Btw, of course all dynamic settings (module + SD3 / EZ3) are set to linear here (for those tests)!

And applying a general velocity curve will of course NOT be suitable to compensate for the loss of velocity from the center to the edge! -> it will just shift the inconsistent range/zone on the radius!

So if you want to apply a velocity curve to the snare head, the most consistent way will be like this: always smooth out the velocity translation (with such a fix engine) before applying your preferred velocity curve❗️ 😊


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Mon May 27, 2024 6:25 pm
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Hi,

I'm new here. I own a td27 kv2. I have watched the video but don't understand what I need to adjust where. Is there any explanation ?

Best regards


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Mon May 27, 2024 6:35 pm
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i've just watched a few other videos of yours. somehow i don't understand what i have to do in any of them. To me, the videos always look like comparison videos. Not like video instructions. Unfortunately, I also don't understand what the FIX Engine is. Is it a program or a preset? Maybe you can help me with that.


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Mon May 27, 2024 8:11 pm
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Zitat von holyfield1989 im Beitrag #4
i've just watched a few other videos of yours. somehow i don't understand what i have to do in any of them. To me, the videos always look like comparison videos. Not like video instructions. Unfortunately, I also don't understand what the FIX Engine is. Is it a program or a preset? Maybe you can help me with that.


Thanks for your interest 🙂
FIX Engines are based on real time midi editing within a capable DAW and come along with personal support (via online setup sessions) ; so yes, there are no video instructions.


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